Hi Robos, Yeah the members.home.net ISP went out of business :-( Yes bbtools is freeware as well and I really should have released it under gpl. I did not think I could do that with bbmpeg as it contained code from other sources. bbtools does not, it is all my code with a few additions from a couple of users. Feel free to use bbtools code as if it were released with a gpl license. Later, Brent (Beyeler)